REFLECTION :
- From a working class perspective we covered themes of fear and anxiety, vulnerability at work, frustration at figures in government.
- Methodologically, played with ideas of answering questions with drawings which worked well in breaking up the time slightly and changing the language in which they can think/answer.
- The pictorial answers evoked emotional responses to the question 'what are your hopes and fears?'.
- Images include the sun, malevolence, gerontocracy, class division.
19/08/20 - Joe Manners - Interview with ...
Did you follow the news as the story developed before the pandemic was declared?
Yes.
Did you take comfort in the advice provided in this country (wash your hands)
in those early days before the UK lockdown was implemented?
Yes, but not as much comfort as I had wanted to feel since I didn’t feel like it was
enough
Was there a point when it all hit you?
When travel bans occurred and physical and verbal racism towards the Eastern
Asian community.
Do you remember how you felt when Italy - and subsequently Spain and France
- went into lockdown?
Yes, I remember because I was disappointed I now could not go to the Spain holiday
I had been planning to book the previous year.
Did you have any reservations/concerns/thoughts of potential outcomes
following how quickly everything seemed to be changing?
No, I was glad action had been taken quickly, as necessary.
Do you remember how you felt when we were told to ‘stay at home’?
I was glad that I was able to put my extrovert side to rest and awaken my introvert
side which I much prefer.
What were your circumstances (living, employment, studying etc) when the
government decided to close non-essential businesses - and the lockdown that followed?
I have been employed at a non-essential business and am also a student, studying a Masters course. The business was closed, and the university was also closed.
Have you or have any loved ones had direct contact with the virus?
Yes. My family in Southern Asia.
How does Covid-19 itself make you feel?
I have been made to feel concerned and worried about how unprepared the government had been when a sudden event occurred in the country such as a pandemic.
Have you felt any grievances during UK lockdown?
Not so far, no.
Have you thrived during UK lockdown?
I have not.
Do you feel we are moving at the right pace in gradually re-opening sectors of the economy?
I feel that we may be moving a little too fast as non-essential businesses had already opened a long time ago and I think it had been too soon. Due to this decision, the number of infected cases has gradually increased again.
What are your current circumstances (living, employment, studying etc)?
I am currently back at work, at the non-essential business of my employment. I am also still studying for my Masters through online video group sessions with my class. I am currently residing at home with my parents.
When all this is over, do you think we should return to business as usual?
Perhaps not as normal as we were before. I think there should still be at least a small amount of restrictions.
Do you think society needs to take anything forward following this era?
Yes. I think society needs to understand how easy it is to pass on certain health hazards and practices such as sneezing into your elbow or wearing a mask when you’re sick should be carried forward.
Do you remember any dreams that stand out to you during lockdown?
Actually, I remember having a lack of sleep due to all the worry of the world.
Worst thought/best thought during this era?
A lot of time for self-thought and a good overview of my overall life.
Best/worst ways it affected your life/practice/relationships?
It has shown to me which people in my life make an effort to keep in contact with me, it has also proved to myself that I am more social than I thought I was previously. The worst way was that I had not been able to meet my family and friends who I would’ve loved to meet in the time “off”.
Any songs/films/art pieces that have helped you / or you would associate with Covid-19/life in lockdown?
I re-watched the entire series of Harry Potter throughout lockdown, not specifically associated with Covid but definitely helped cope with all the free time I had available.
21/08/20 - Joe Manners - Interview with ...
Was there a particular point when it all hit you?
A combination of real world observation and online. It seems like in the same day I noticed just how empty the streets were, no cars or people. And the same day online I saw freelancers scrambling for work, in house folks being laid off, quite suddenly it really felt real and too the fear of what would happen next.
What were your circumstances (accommodation, employment, studying etc) when the government decided to close non-essential businesses - and the lockdown that followed?
I worked out of a studio above a bar in the city centre , the bar has to be open for me to get access. I received a text that the bar was locked down until further notice. So I then started working from, something I did in the beginning of my career and I remember how awful it was, I like being around people. The bar has now been sold and I moved all of my equipment out last week. Rough.
How does Covid-19 itself make you feel?
Powerless and angry. I’m powerless to those who don’t believe the rules apply to them and I’m angry at the government for mishandling the crisis so badly. Most countries are in single digit new cases at this point and were expecting a second wave already.
Have you felt any grievances during isolation?
People not wearing masks in public maybe? I’ve hit people for less but I honestly haven’t the energy these days, which is tragic in of itself.
Have you thrived / or had any achievements during isolation?
Last year I took a book project on, knowing I would have to scale back my freelance work so I could focus, I was worried about the financial hit but it seems like good timing, there’s little work to be found even if I wasn’t so busy.
What are your current circumstances (accommodation, employment, studying etc)?
I’m a full time freelance illustrator, just bought a house and am currently financially stable.
Are there any dreams that have stood out to you during isolation?
Only the fact I haven’t dreamt all year.
Do you think society needs to take anything forward following this era?
Communism
24/08/20 - Joe Manners - Interview with ...
Was there a particular point when it all hit you?
I think the seriousness of COVID-19 hit me when I was on the train back from Birmingham after seeing friends. I felt my paranoia and concern flaring up as people were wearing masks and the train was virtually empty. I felt extremely guilty for not having realised the seriousness of the situation and was wanting to get back to London ASAP and to begin isolating. This was just days before an official lockdown was put in place.
What were your circumstances (accommodation, employment, studying etc) when the government decided to close non-essential businesses - and the lockdown that followed?
I live in rented accommodation in South East London with three other people. One of these people moved out in June just after lockdown had officially been lifted and another housemate moved in shortly after. I have been living in this flat for three years, but all of my housemates had only moved in to the house in November. This meant that lockdown felt even more strained as we had to get to know each other in an extremely difficult time, which undoubtedly meant that there were different and unfamiliar tensions between everyone.
I have two jobs, one in a gallery/studio close by to where I live (one day a week) and the other I am an administrator for a membership organisation for arts festivals (three days a week). I continued to work for the gallery at home all throughout lockdown, which helped to maintain a small amount of routine. For my other job I was put onto furlough, but returned every 4 weeks or so to help support my manager because we are a small team of two and so the workload on her increased greatly. Thankfully, both of these organisations were awarded Arts Council Covid Grants, which has meant the organisations have been able to survive throughout this time.
How does Covid-19 itself make you feel?
The actual illness makes me feel anxious as so little is known about it. After returning to the gallery, I spoke to an artist who has a studio and who had actually had Covid-19. They explained that despite having the illness months ago, they are still now experiencing symptoms of fatigue, disorientation, and hair loss. Her daughter had also had the illness and now has neurological damage. Whilst, another friend who is a physiotherapist had the illness, only finding out about this via an antibody test.
I also feel almost apathetic because of the government response. It enrages me and makes me feel so fed up with the general ways of things. I am so worried about the general public being left alone to handle this situation, but this is almost impossible without external help. I have also been worrying about those people who have been alone or in precarious situations during this time, without human contact and support.
Have you felt any grievances during isolation?
I have had disagreements with my housemates, as during the beginning of lockdown one of them did not come home for the whole night and I felt it was my duty to condemn their behaviour and discourage them from doing it again. This was partially resolved, but I still feel guilty for being so hard on them. Similarly, I had disagreements in the house generally, as I was feeling less able to cope with the demands of being left with cleaning and tidying.
Have you thrived / or had any achievements during isolation?
To a certain degree, I feel that lockdown has been a beneficial time for me, as I’ve been able to do more of the things that I enjoy, without the excuse of feeling too tired or not having enough time. Work is a means to an end for me and has often caused me a great deal of misery, because I find
there is so much pressure for your job to be your whole identity. Therefore, isolation has actually allowed me the space to do more things in the community, such as volunteering with the local mutual aid group and also enabled me to focus on my running & cycling, gardening, writing and developing a small blog.
What are your current circumstances (accommodation, employment, studying etc)?
I am now back working in the gallery and have begun working for my other position one day a week, as the furlough scheme has become more flexible.
Are there any dreams that have stood out to you during isolation?
Unfortunately I always seem to forget my dreams, but I have remembered one mainly because I found it funny. I have been growing courgettes on my windowsill as I don’t have access to a garden, but had a vivid dream where I just decided to pick up the grow bags and throw them all in the bin. I woke up feeling very tense and thankfully when I checked on them they were still there!
Do you think society needs to take anything forward following this era?
I think society needs to take forward many things from this era, particularly in terms of managing unpredictable issues. Matters of hygiene are now important more than ever, and it has become clear the ways in which we were not being vigilant enough before. I also think that the whole aspect of work has to change, as the people who have been on the frontline during this time, are often considered to have the menial jobs. Yet, it has become apparent that these people deserve the same rates of pay and work benefits as everyone else. Similarly, the whole structure of work needs to change as through this time it has become apparent that more people are able to work from home, thereby alleviating the cost of childcare or long commutes.
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7. Has the pandemic affected any of your relationships?
The pandemic has effected my relationships but positively! Towards the start, most of my friends were looking out for each other by chatting on house party, zoom, FB chat and Instagram. The past year I've been working long hour jobs and have found it difficult to get the right balance between work/friends/family, I didnt have much time for socialising with friends, and when I did I mostly too tired to party and I was always worried about what my friends thought of this... But I've found that I've grown closer to some of my friendship groups from just hanging out online doing absolutely nothing together. Although I've got to say... now I've started back at work I've slipped back into my old self and I've realised it's something I need to work on.
13. Pick a moment, any covid era moment, that has stuck in your memory.
I had a close friend Charlotte-Anne's birthday towards the first month of lockdown. 5 of my girlfriends and I turned up to her house, knocked on her door and surprised her with presents and cakes, sang happy birthday to her and chatted in her front garden - all socially distanced of course! We went home and she had a zoon birthday call with 40 other people (mad who has that many close friends?!?). The call was so awkward but hilarious! CA said it was her best birthday yes as everyone put in so much effort!
20. What have you missed most?
I've missed FESTIVALS, hugs, hanging out with friends all night, live events and parties, dancing!!, eating yummy food in restaurants, not wearing a mask and other PPE equipment!!
14. Have you learnt anything?
I've learnt how to make goldwork embroidery, use piping tips to decorate cakes and lots of yummy food recipes!!
BJ: So this is Bibi responding to the question - have you had any dreams you remember during lockdown?
BL: Okay, so I will tell you two not super interesting ones but one of them is really relevant. So it was like in a I think it was in some sort of theatre, in a private space. And I remember in the dream thinking, this is a very COVID like risk averse. And that's the only time I remember really clearly COVID coming into my dreams. And then the other one which I pretty sure is a recurring dream. I'm in like, a huge it's kind of like swimming pool changing rooms, but it has the feel of a public school almost? like I've been to a public school but like, just really big, Hogwarts-y almost. Everything's tiled, and I'm just trying to find a toilet or a place to change. But the dream that I really thought about telling you because it happened. It's like it wouldn't have happened without COVID because as you know, I've moved into this housing co op because I had to move out of my house. quite quickly. erm..
and the co op that moved into had one friend who I previously kind of had a crush on and who had reciprocal feelings for me. And they, at some point in the past kind of stopped having those same crush feelings for me and it's now for them feels much more of a friendship. After a while of having like two weeks of the worst jealousy feelings that I've had in a long time, I realized that actually the feelings I had for them also weren't really crush. Or like loving, it was more like I just think they're fucking amazing. I think I've got a bit of a I don't know if it's a kink or it's just a thing that like, when I look up to people, that is, like, really intense for me.
BJ: 100 percent understand that. Yeah,
BL: yeah. So anyway, I was in this housing co op as having these intense feelings. And then I had this dream and it was that we were in sort of kind of like some sort of wooded camping space like there's a clearing and there are trees around. And I have a feeling that I don't remember specifically the people I was with. I think it was those housing co op members, right. And I went, walked tiny bit away from the outside to get some wood... I just rememberd the end of this dream! and it's so much weirder!
BJ: please tell me! (both laughing)
BL: Anyway, okay, so I walked to the woodpile to get some wood for the fire, and then I see two snakes. So bare in mind that the jealousy feelings I had were directed at two of the people in this co op. One was the person who I kind of had had feelings for and was having feelings for. And the other was the person that they had recently started having feelings for a new member of the co op. Who you know I could just project all of my insecurities onto, their like queer than me they're like more femme than me they're like just you know better body more pretty etc, etc. So these are the two people. And then as I'm getting this or trying to get the wood out the woodstore two snakes appear, oh my god, and they, they come towards me and like I start walking backwards because I know they're dangerous. Like, in a very basic dream interpretation, these two snakes the two people that my jealous feelings are about , yeah, and then I'm trying to reason with these snakes because I don't want to die. And I don't know why, but in my dream, I decided that the best way to convince them not to kill me was - and I'm quoting myself directly here, to invite them to an interspecies orgy! (both laugh) I have no idea where that came from!
BJ: I thought you were gonna say like seduce them, Or something but yeah. Interspecies orgy is a bit more than what I thought!
BL: Oh God, I don't know if like they even said anything like we're gonna eat you now, or if I just came straight out with it, but I was remembering that and I told them both on everyone later and everyone obviously had much hilarity... so thanks COVID for putting me in that situation where I could have that dream
BJ: Do you know what I could make a project just based on the dreams I've heard people have. Yeah. Public dissection, interspecies orgies... fucking hell!
BL: That would have been a really cool dream, you know? yeah, an interspecies orgy. it's kind of sad it didn't happen.
BJ: just kind of didn't get there...the anticipation woke you up?
BL: Yeah, I think part of me was like, yeah, this is a good thing to say to snakes who wants to eat you and another part of me is like, what the actual fuck did you just say? and then maybe ended the dream.
BJ: I've kind of done that in dreams before they were like what's what's my way out of this? Maybe I can seduce my way out. Maybe when I'm more sexually frustrated, but that's so amazing.
BL: Yeah, I was pretty sexually frustrated and still am, I'm really. I mean everyone is right.
BJ: yeah, what a shame ...I mean, we were looking on Tinder just for a laugh. But it's shit in Nottingham. I saw (name), from school.
BL: Oh my god, can we look him up? I wanna see what he looks like.
BJ: I didn't say yes, but I might have screenshotted it. Let me have a look. I'm going to end the recording there. Haha!
BL: I also really want to hear about what other dreams people had.
Themes and visual elements from research - love & fear of death, fear & frustration, news & society, work spaces, home spaces ( the 2 combined) meditative practices, learning, progress & hope, healing, dreams.
Scenographic compositions of 3 - 5 seconds are probably the best way to work within technical constraints and is reflective of the idea of covid-era spaces.
Scenographic elements - development of compositions may involve implementing methods used in research (chance & automatism) as well as additional experimental methods.
Background elements (representation of themes) : fear, frustration., isolation, anxiety, news & society, insecurity,
Foreground elements : Love, intimacy, hope, progress, learning, healing, meditation, safety, security, family, friends, work, recreation, technological spaces.
Additional: : dream scenes, detachment, technology based spaces data visualizations?
Methods of research, using chance, automatism and drawing had the interviewees laughing and generally responding emotionally to the questions. In the 2 instances of being in a group with 2 interviewees, playing games was a good method of distraction and was a positive experience. This perhaps influenced the answers in that the interviewees were more comfortable in answering harder questions.
Where the methods intersected with the answers most effectively was the pictorial answers, which expressed quite strong emotions including fear and hope. Could argue.. it also stimulated visual thinking in both parties and thus answers /memories were more visual in nature
Contrast and juxtaposition of things that scare and frustrate as well as those that give hope carried through to test anims; where background and foreground contrast using elements picked from research (i.e indoor and outdoor landscapes) could illustrate distances, technological spaces/ relationships
Going forward
Using the same methods to develop compositions! - employing chance and automatism to pick elements and themes to combine into works could influence the project going into the last 4 weeks.
This could be in person or on a zoom call.
Test, test, test combinations of scenes, animation methods (trying out 3D!) , visual elements